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speed of movement

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:43 am
by fluffy little thing
Hi All,
after some coaching from Cynyx and DEM my movement around the maps is getting slightly better, dem made a demo of us fighting and posted it to me, i played it back and it made me feel dizzy at the rate he moves.
anyway i was playing last night and saskia (no 2 in our states) came in, there is moving fast and moving ultra fast ! how does he/she do it :?:
i know players can jump high of objects but to jump high and jump again in mid air seems a bit strange to me or am i missing out on something here, impossible to hit moving at that kind of speed and the accuracy of the return fire is stunning :?
you think your are doing ok and improving slightly but then someone like saskia comes along and completly destroys you :shock:

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:08 am
by Cynyx
Fluffy, you are a nice player but i have already said to you : too bad you don't bunny hop or better speedskating. Only you make straffe jumps...

Concerning high jump :

cl_cmdrate 67
cl_updaterate 67
help a lot for high jump on objects.

For fast moves (mean bunny hop and speedskating) i suggest you to watch these video :

http://www.hl2dm-university.com/videos/ ... al_001.avi
http://www.hl2dm-university.com/videos/ ... torial.avi

cl_showpos 1 is a good command in order to watch your progression.

For training, bunny hop, some interresting maps on private server 1:
ptrain
lockdown or lockdown_leak (the window jump on)
lostvillage

I will try to catch you for show you how if u want.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:39 am
by Trauma<
Cynyx explained me how to be fast when i was noob and he is a good teacher.

I can tell you that the map ptrain is a really really good way to improve your skills.

Try it with different grav and try to apply new technics that you learn... and then apply that to your gameplay (i remember i use to bunny-hope in the narrow bridge in killboxes to master direction of my bunny).
Then it become natural.

good luck :D

Edit: what you learn in the vids can be good but, when you will have understand the principe of bunny-hope, there is another technics that someone can try to show you, is to make a "6" with your mouss before jumping...

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:29 am
by Cynyx
Trauma< wrote: there is another technics that someone can try to show you, is to make a "6" with your mouss before jumping...
I think i'm not using this movement, or i can't see the "6".

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:46 am
by zoubab
my bh are better since i use jump on mousewheelup and crouch on mouse5.
That helped me a lot for timing.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:56 am
by DEM
nice bab! jump in mouse - unreal for me^^

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:03 pm
by zoubab
DEM wrote:nice bab! jump in mouse - unreal for me^^
crouch on CTRL is unreal for me :shock: :lol:

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:27 pm
by DEM
im crouch in C or space

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:50 pm
by Cynyx
2 ways of jump for me : space and wheelmouse
+ C for duck.

in past i used a bind for duck+jump ... but i removed it because u can't bhop if u have a such bind.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:35 pm
by [HL²]fans_TiAs
lol ur mad all XD.

space: jump
ctrl : crouch.

xD

I live in a mad world :shock: .

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:19 pm
by federalic
[HL²]fans_TiAs wrote:lol ur mad all XD.

space: jump
ctrl : crouch.

xD

I live in a mad world :shock: .
same for me :lol:
i cant use other keys for this stuff))

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:27 pm
by Cynyx
C+SPACE is very usefull for duck+jump because key are very near themselves.
Can't understand how u play with CRTL+SPACE.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:06 pm
by federalic
my "the most little" finger is for shift and ctrl, 3 middle fingers is for movement and weapons keys and the "biggest" finger is always on space. 8)

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:11 pm
by Cynyx
little for speed on SHIFT
Thumber sliding for SPACE+C
other fingers left for movement.
and sometime the bigger change weapon, very rarely because i use only xbow :)

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:48 pm
by [HL²]fans_TiAs
federalic wrote:my "the most little" finger is for shift and ctrl, 3 middle fingers is for movement and weapons keys and the "biggest" finger is always on space. 8)
same.
finger's brothers :lol:

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:13 pm
by Maxut
i use my feet :shock:

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:46 am
by DHR_000x
Cynyx wrote:C+SPACE is very usefull for duck+jump because key are very near themselves.
Can't understand how u play with CRTL+SPACE.
CTRL+SPACE are two diferent keys for two different fingers, how can you hit C+SPACE at the same time????? with the same finger?? :P :o

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:03 am
by DEM
C- duck is standart quake button

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:00 am
by Cynyx
C+SPACE = a slide with thumb = u press 2 keys with one finger ... efficient.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:57 pm
by SoOPaH
a - run
shift - jump
ctrl - crounch
space - use


I'd try to put jump on mouse but impossible!!!!!

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:12 pm
by Roundup
SoOPaH wrote:I'd try to put jump on mouse but impossible!!!!!

Code: Select all

bind "MWHEELUP" "+jump"

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:03 am
by SoOPaH
:lol: I would say it's unplayable!!!

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:43 pm
by zoubab
SoOPaH wrote::lol: I would say it's unplayable!!!
yeah thats take time to get used to, but for me its perfect,
if i catch the good timing, i can avoid the fall damage even on flat area.
I CANT do that with that F*ù$!? spacebar ! :lol:

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:33 pm
by DHR_000x
zoubab wrote: if i catch the good timing, i can avoid the fall damage even on flat area.

I love to jump all around and avoid that this fucking damage would be very usefull to me, could you explain me how to do that? I'll be very pleased about, thx :)

Need to leran a lot of tricks :D

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:39 pm
by zoubab
DHR_000x wrote: I love to jump all around and avoid that this fucking damage would be very usefull to me, cou^ld you explain me how to do that? I'll be very pleased about thx :)
You have to think like a ninjaaaaa !!!
how you do in real life to avoid crash when u jump ?
you land crouched and you make a little jump, like a spring.
parkour or yamakazi style, as u want...
Sounds really stupid i know, but it works ingame too ! :wink:
Just a question of TIMING !
Think ninja ! :twisted:

/vandamme

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:51 pm
by DHR_000x
Yeah i know, if you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle

if you put CTRL+SPACE into a crash it becomes a soft pillow xD


Be pillow my friend


Thy!!!

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:06 pm
by Roundup
lol

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:56 pm
by zoubab
You get it !!!!! hourra for bruce dhr_000x lee !! :mrgreen:

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:42 pm
by Cynyx
lockdown jump 3 times, without effort, the only thing can prove u make the good movement for speedskating :
http://ftp.emc2-clan.com/ressources/demo/lock.zip

can't do that when i'm lagging... i can when not. :roll:

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:28 am
by DHR_000x
What should i do with that file :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: