[HL2DM] About spawn protection

Comments and suggestions about E=mc² servers

Remove Spawn protection

Yes, on public server
3
25%
Yes, on private server
2
17%
Yes, on both servers
4
33%
No, i love to be killed by spawn protected players
3
25%
 
Total votes : 12

[HL2DM] About spawn protection

Postby Cynyx on Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:49 pm

God i hate to be spawn killed ...
but i hate more be kiled by spawn protected players. I see more and more players prepare their weapon and/or shoot during spawn protection. Really unfair because u can't shoot them.

I begin to know why some admins don't want spawn protection of their server (Osiris from TSGK for example...)

So i launch a poll to have your opinion about removing spawn protection.
Last edited by Cynyx on Tue May 01, 2007 11:14 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby EEE K t Pillo on Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:14 pm

I do not like either that they kill to me thus, but for my it is worse when nothing else to appear in the game she kills to me. :evil:
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Postby eXs| DanielAndres on Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:57 pm

There is a better Way. The Spawnprotection Plugin can be edited so, that the protected payers cant look around with the Mouse (and not aim in follow of that) so long they have not use the Moving-Keys and lost the Protection.

This is what the Help-File says:

Spawn and Chat Protection
-------------------------
for Half-Life 2 deathmatch by Bernt Nilsson, 2006

Some ideas comes from sc-prot-mm-2.0 for HL1 by Jussi Kivilinna

Installation
------------
Windows; put sc_protect.dll and sc_protect.vdf into addons.
Linux; put sc_protect_i486.so and sc_protect.vdf into addons.
If there is no addons catalog under hl2mp, just create it.

Check http://www.esteticas.se/catman.php for new versions.

Known buggs;
- in some situtations, looking up or down during chat protection
will slowly cycle through protection/unprotection
solution: look stright at the wall.

Please report buggs via http://www.esteticas.se/concact.php

Thank you all testers!

Status
------
The following command can be used in the servers console to
check the protection status of players;

scp_status


Configuration
-------------
For normal operation the default values are usually enough, so
you don't really need to set any of these :-)

Convar Default Explanation
------ ------- -----------

scp_spawn_on 1 Enable Spawn protection
scp_chat_on 1 Enable Chat protection
scp_msg_on 1 Enable messages
scp_help_on 1 Enable auto help
scp_protect_bots 0 If bots should be protected
scp_color "255 0 0 75" Player color/transparence,
red green blue alpa, when protected
scp_spawn_msg "{0 255 0 255}You are spawn protected!"
{r g b a} spawn protection on message
scp_chat_msg "{0 255 0 255}You are chat protected!"
{r g b a} chat protection on message
scp_off_msg "{255 0 0 255}Your protection has worn off!"
{r g b a}protection of message

scp_chat_delay 3 Delay until chat protection
scp_chat_wall_dist 32 Distance a player must be within looking at a wall
scp_chat_on_ladders 0 Allow chat protect while on ladders
scp_chat_wall_recheck 0.5 Minimum time until recheck of facing wall
scp_chat_look_allowed 0 Allow chat protected player to look around
after initialy facing a wall

scp_help_words "spawn&protect|chat&protect"
Word combinations said in chat that trigger help message
scp_help_title "Press ESC to view help message"
Help message title
scp_help_msg
"This server has spawn protection {scp_spawn_on?enabled:disabled}"
" and chat protection {scp_chat_on?enabled:disabled}.\n"
"\n"
"Spawn protection is in effect until you move or attack.\n"
"It's allowed to look around to get your bearings.\n"
"\n"
"If you want to get chat protection:\n"
"Face a solid wall and don't move or shoot for {scp_chat_delay} seconds.\n"
"Chat protection is in effect until you move or attack.\n"
"Configuration {scp_chat_look_allowed?allows:disallows} looking away from the wall."

{r g b a}Help message, convars expanded inside {}

scp_attacker_msg {255 0 0 255}%s is protected!
{r g b a}What to tell an attacker
scp_attacker_punish 10 How much health to remove to punish an attacker

scp_version SCP_VERSION Version of plugin, clients can read this Convar
____________________________________________________>>>>>

The interisting Parts are marked red. Maybe you try this Way before you erase the whole Protection.
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Postby Cynyx on Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:52 pm

thanks ... i will try ... but i'm not sure to have this version ... and also ... i want a spawn protection removing at any action of a player : move mouse, change weapon.
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Postby eXs| DanielAndres on Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:28 pm

It removes Mousemoving. Who cares what Weapon he hold so long he only can look straight forward.
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Postby Cynyx on Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:31 pm

and what about moves for players who play directly when spawn ... i think my first move it's mouse move to gain speed /
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Postby eXs| DanielAndres on Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:21 pm

Well, i never said i could heal AIDS or something like that... If you still feel uncomfortable with this - and more then without the whole Spawnprotection - and all have to deal with the Spawnkill Problem again instead of a handfull Situations when Players abuse the Spawnprotection and fire 1 single shot out of it...

To your movement Problem. Press W for 1 Microsecond before you start up with your Bunnyhop Orgy and ok. Not a big Problem overall i think - not half as big then Spawnkills in my personal View.

There are much more Spawnkillers then Guys who use to fire 1 Shot out of Spawnprotection.

Actual you just cant have all at the same time...

You must deal with:
A few Players who abuse the Spawnprotection...
or
A lot Spawnkills in Future again
or
your Bunnyhop Problem.
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Postby Cynyx on Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:34 pm

removing chat protection moving : default 0.

hmmm when i read again this help, i see it's not that i want. For the moment this CVAR (to 0) prevents a player to look around him when he's on chat protection (after a wall watching). I really not want to set this value to 1 ! I don't want to add possibility to moving for player under chat protection.
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Postby eXs| DanielAndres on Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:43 pm

You understand this false...

Actual (with 0) they can look around + aim in Chat-Protection.

Set it to 1 and there Mouse frozen so long they are protected.
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Postby Cynyx on Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:58 pm

eXs| DanielAndres wrote:You understand this false...

Actual (with 0) they can look around + aim in Chat-Protection.

Set it to 1 and there Mouse frozen so long they are protected.


no u can't in chat protection on E=mc² servers. if u stop to watch the wall (move mouse) ur chat protection is removed.
chat protection is different than Spawn protection ... it's for spawn protection i want eventually this function...
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Postby Trauma< on Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:37 pm

Hi!
I don't love to be killed by spawn protected players :) but... spawn protection is good. And very good in orgy map with spawn in the battlefield like... dm_angar, dm_orgy and others...! So I vote no.
Cynyx if you modify this thing, it's better but i prefer take the risk of being aimed by protected player that being spawn killed strictly :D
bb men cya!
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Postby eXs| DanielAndres on Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:43 pm

Yep, Trauma is exactly right. The actual Spawnprotection is far away from being perfect but however much better then no Spawnprotection.

Maybe we will become an Update like - blocked Mousekeys while protected - sometime later.
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Postby EEE K t Pillo on Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:49 pm

I am not safe to vote between the options available…
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Postby KIO on Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:57 pm

Yeah, and I kind of voted wrong:).. I voted "Yes, on the public server", i thought the quetsion was DO YOU WANT SPWAN PROTECTION, when it is, in fact, Do you want it REMOVED:).. so, I DO like the spawnprotection and prefer it to stay on the public server
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Postby anti fougere on Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:48 pm

hm, no other choice....
I don't like being spawnkilled so spawnprotection is fine. It's true that some people wait, while they respawn, when you are in front of them and immediatly after that you turn, they kill you in the back. I just think they are just piece of shit and stupid. I try to avoid to do it and I get more fun with it anyway. I can remember that before I said every minuts "shitty spawnkiller", "thx for spawnkill" or also "sry spawnkill".... I was always fed up with that. So DON'T REMOVE SPAWNPROTECTION PLEASE!!!!! at least on public server.
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